[James]

Those are just moves that I can mention now without knowing the social dynamics in the game.

[Mike]

She has plenty of moves left imo. Always wiggle room in Stranded/Survivor, just have to find it. 

But yeah for sure Sydney is a ''better'' move resume-wise than Voce.

Would love to hear your insight on what moves you think she has left here - what do you think her best moves here would be/are?

Final night for advantages, back against the wall, if she's aware of someone that has one then she should try and get them out in the open.

She can also just pull a James and make a fake one. I'm sure it would work a second time, especially considering the circumstances regarding it being the last night to do it.

Also not talking to Sydney is a bad mistake. 

Yup I can agree with the advantages one. The idol - I don't think anyone else is as gifted with whipping something like together as you but sure, assuming she could I could see that too.

100% agree on the Sydney lack of communication - no one is expendable...especially at this stage.

[James]

Sooooo... only 2 advantages were played? Morgan got booted out with one so that makes 3 total. Wonder where the other two are at.

[James]

Would love to hear your insight on what moves you think she has left here - what do you think her best moves here would be/are?

Final night for advantages, back against the wall, if she's aware of someone that has one then she should try and get them out in the open.

She can also just pull a James and make a fake one. I'm sure it would work a second time, especially considering the circumstances regarding it being the last night to do it.

Also not talking to Sydney is a bad mistake. 

Yup I can agree with the advantages one. The idol - I don't think anyone else is as gifted with whipping something like together as you but sure, assuming she could I could see that too.

100% agree on the Sydney lack of communication - no one is expendable...especially at this stage.

It doesn't necessarily have to be an idol, there's other advantages in the game, Steph is the Queen of Gaslighting so she could easily use that to her advantage (pun intended) to make it seem like this specific kind of advantage doesn't have an image or a visual element and it's something she needs to play some other way.

[Mike]

Sooooo... only 2 advantages were played? Morgan got booted out with one so that makes 3 total. Wonder where the other two are at.

So Michelle got a mystery idol according to Paul - she just got messaged on by Probst apparently? Could have been a lie and she just got it from a box. 2 played yesterday. Apparently Rodney had a steal-a-vote, which kinda baffles me that he didn't use it in the position he was in when he got booted because I thought it was pretty clear he was in danger at that tribal and it was between him and Sydney.

[Mike]

DAAAAAAAAMN they got Hali. I think that's a big mistake for them in the long run but Steph clearly pulled it off so good for her
 

[James]

Okay question for the hosts and lurkers that might have more Stranded lore than I do. Why is discussion about challenges like the one tonight is against the rules? I get it for challenges that are more social in nature but I don't think it goes against the integrity of the game having people help each other.

I suppose if we compare it to actual Survivor it's very dependent on how Jeff is feeling that way LOL. It seems like you aren't allowed to physically help other competitors during challenges but you can verbally help them from what I've gathered.

[James]

Sooooo... only 2 advantages were played? Morgan got booted out with one so that makes 3 total. Wonder where the other two are at.

So Michelle got a mystery idol according to Paul - she just got messaged on by Probst apparently? Could have been a lie and she just got it from a box. 2 played yesterday. Apparently Rodney had a steal-a-vote, which kinda baffles me that he didn't use it in the position he was in when he got booted because I thought it was pretty clear he was in danger at that tribal and it was between him and Sydney.

Average Rodney Moment LOL

[James]

Okay question for the hosts and lurkers that might have more Stranded lore than I do. Why is discussion about challenges like the one tonight is against the rules? I get it for challenges that are more social in nature but I don't think it goes against the integrity of the game having people help each other.

I suppose if we compare it to actual Survivor it's very dependent on how Jeff is feeling that way LOL. It seems like you aren't allowed to physically help other competitors during challenges but you can verbally help them from what I've gathered.

*day not way

[James]

Well... if TC tonight wasn't the proof needed to show that Steph is great at gaslighting I don't know what is. I have a hard time believing that it wasn't all a show from her tonight. Props to her.

[James]

I hope Michelle was behind this move. This is exactly what she needed to cement her win. 

[Mike]

Well... if TC tonight wasn't the proof needed to show that Steph is great at gaslighting I don't know what is. I have a hard time believing that it wasn't all a show from her tonight. Props to her.

100% a show BUT it's the type of thing that's letting her build a good story going into f2 if she can get there. She beats the other two but not Michelle. That's the real showdown of the season I think.

[James]

Well... if TC tonight wasn't the proof needed to show that Steph is great at gaslighting I don't know what is. I have a hard time believing that it wasn't all a show from her tonight. Props to her.

100% a show BUT it's the type of thing that's letting her build a good story going into f2 if she can get there. She beats the other two but not Michelle. That's the real showdown of the season I think.

If Michelle wins the next challenge then Steph HAS to be out at that point no? The only way she survives is if Michelle wants her around for some reason. No way Voce and Sydney would vote for each other I don't think as they know where they stand in the game. 

[Mike]

I hope Michelle was behind this move. This is exactly what she needed to cement her win. 

On the flip side of that, if she was left out of the move that's a big deal there too. Interesting dynamics at play here.

[Mike]

Well... if TC tonight wasn't the proof needed to show that Steph is great at gaslighting I don't know what is. I have a hard time believing that it wasn't all a show from her tonight. Props to her.

100% a show BUT it's the type of thing that's letting her build a good story going into f2 if she can get there. She beats the other two but not Michelle. That's the real showdown of the season I think.

If Michelle wins the next challenge then Steph HAS to be out at that point no? The only way she survives is if Michelle wants her around for some reason. No way Voce and Sydney would vote for each other I don't think as they know where they stand in the game. 

If Michelle wants to guarantee the win she kills Steph next. Steph is now the only person left that I think could legitimately challenge Michelle if she comes with a great pitch. Sydney has a strong pitch for survival but not much else. Voce is just along for the ride as I see it.

[James]

Well... if TC tonight wasn't the proof needed to show that Steph is great at gaslighting I don't know what is. I have a hard time believing that it wasn't all a show from her tonight. Props to her.

100% a show BUT it's the type of thing that's letting her build a good story going into f2 if she can get there. She beats the other two but not Michelle. That's the real showdown of the season I think.

And it's not necessarily building a good story. It would be good if she wasn't known as someone that's always gaslighting, it becomes too easy to see through the BS so it doesn't convince anyone from jury.

[James]

100% a show BUT it's the type of thing that's letting her build a good story going into f2 if she can get there. She beats the other two but not Michelle. That's the real showdown of the season I think.

If Michelle wins the next challenge then Steph HAS to be out at that point no? The only way she survives is if Michelle wants her around for some reason. No way Voce and Sydney would vote for each other I don't think as they know where they stand in the game. 

If Michelle wants to guarantee the win she kills Steph next. Steph is now the only person left that I think could legitimately challenge Michelle if she comes with a great pitch. Sydney has a strong pitch for survival but not much else. Voce is just along for the ride as I see it.

Yep. That's exactly what I'm thinking. And Steph would need a pitch like never seen before to even attempt a chance at winning against Michelle. 

[Mike]

Well... if TC tonight wasn't the proof needed to show that Steph is great at gaslighting I don't know what is. I have a hard time believing that it wasn't all a show from her tonight. Props to her.

100% a show BUT it's the type of thing that's letting her build a good story going into f2 if she can get there. She beats the other two but not Michelle. That's the real showdown of the season I think.

And it's not necessarily building a good story. It would be good if she wasn't known as someone that's always gaslighting, it becomes too easy to see through the BS so it doesn't convince anyone from jury.

As someone who got through the gaslighting and built a genuine relationship with her (or at least it feels that way) I see it differently but again, that's the beauty of this season. Pre-existing social dynamics at play. You've known her for longer but time doesn't necessarily equal intent so our perspectives on her I think are very different.

[James]

100% a show BUT it's the type of thing that's letting her build a good story going into f2 if she can get there. She beats the other two but not Michelle. That's the real showdown of the season I think.

And it's not necessarily building a good story. It would be good if she wasn't known as someone that's always gaslighting, it becomes too easy to see through the BS so it doesn't convince anyone from jury.

As someone who got through the gaslighting and built a genuine relationship with her (or at least it feels that way) I see it differently but again, that's the beauty of this season. Pre-existing social dynamics at play. You've known her for longer but time doesn't necessarily equal intent so our perspectives on her I think are very different.

See? You aren't even sure yourself about your relationship with her. That's usually not a good thing imo. 

*downfall not beauty... but I'm biased LOL

[Mike]

And it's not necessarily building a good story. It would be good if she wasn't known as someone that's always gaslighting, it becomes too easy to see through the BS so it doesn't convince anyone from jury.

As someone who got through the gaslighting and built a genuine relationship with her (or at least it feels that way) I see it differently but again, that's the beauty of this season. Pre-existing social dynamics at play. You've known her for longer but time doesn't necessarily equal intent so our perspectives on her I think are very different.

See? You aren't even sure yourself about your relationship with her. That's usually not a good thing imo. 

*downfall not beauty... but I'm biased LOL

I'm certain that we connected personally but uncertain that our games would have lined up how I liked it in the end. Which means she likely played me and did a great job of it. Gotta respect it on my side of things but I get what you're saying.